Hi all
As you all know, I am a mix of super easy going with a side dish of tyrannical from time to time where Roboscopes is concerned, only because we want to get the best out of our systems for all involved. So as always, I keep a close eye upon syndicates and how productive and well they are running for us and the members.
To that end, we have made the decision that we would prefer to run "new" syndicates a little differently for all members from how we currently do things. We have not 100% come to a decision on quite how we change things yet, so this post is about bouncing ideas back and forth from us and you, the members to see if we can come up with a better way moving forward :)
This is for new syndicates in the Southern Hemisphere, not Spain!
idea-1*
- maximum of 10 members to a syndicate
- Roboscopes & members decide on 20 standard firm favourite jobs to be inputted into the pier that are spread throughout the year
- each member gets to input 1 job a month
- On top of the 20 standard jobs, the pier must not have more than 40 job requests in at any one time
idea-2* (same as one but a smaller syndicate membership base - higher member cost)
- maximum of 5 members to a syndicate
- Roboscopes & members decide on 10 standard firm favourite jobs to be inputted into the pier that are spread throughout the year
- each member gets to input 2 job a month
- On top of the 10 standard jobs, the pier must not have more than 30 job requests in at any one time
- because of the lower volume work, the pier should have headroom for members to discuss further joint projects etc
idea-3*
- maximum of 10 members to a syndicate
- Roboscopes & members decide on 60-80 jobs throughout the year via a simple vote system or something similar (to be decided)
- We use our Roboscopes new calculators for optimal sub-lengths & SNR to deliver the best data possible before diminishing returns kicks in and input the jobs in the pier to suit these parameters
- Members agree to use all the sky and as a group we plan ahead, making the most of the pier during the best parts of the season
- Because of the lower volume work, the pier should have headroom for members to discuss further joint projects etc
Options-4,5 & 6 etc with your feedback
- Can be a combination of the above
- a whole new idea from discussions
- Keeping the system as is (not my preferred option)
You must also remember that we allow our syndicate members much more freedom and personal input into the syndicates than most, we encourage you to talk, and be an active part of the group and collaborate and treat the prier as yours as in essence it is but they have to also work for Roboscopes to promote us as well as the syndicate the group as a whole. So whilst Spain has run like it has for some time, we feel moving forward with any new piers change is afoot as we want to deliver more for everyone than we are currently:!
NB None have you have seen the SNR and sub-length calculators yet but they are on the way soon as they will revolutionize how you image, promise :)
So please come back with anything good idea and let's get this discussion going!
Steve & the team
*Obviously Admin, retakes and all other parts of running the pier we can discuss in-depth later, this is simply a spit balling session for feedback on syndicates!
I have added this to Discord also: https://discord.com/channels/1136974777089789983/1147177367777849475
Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)
Things to do, so little time!
Steve
Roboscopes Tea Boy
Dear (Mr Unhappy) Steve,
A very detailed plug on all the great reasons to use Roboscopes and lots about all the things we as Syndicate members ought to do. I've no problems with that at all, especially since it helps enormously to maximise use of Syndicate piers.
Cheers,
Ray
LOL, Cheeky bugger :)
Please ignore my dylexia wherever possible, just be thankful I can control my Tourettes ;)
Things to do, so little time!
Steve
Roboscopes Tea Boy
Option-7 looks the best so far.
Keeping data for 12-months will really help with duplicate session request. I would also suggest keeping the unprocessed stacked masterLights of popular targets like M42, M31, competition data, and RoboScopes greatest hits indefinitely.
I think all jobs should be under 6 hours, even for the 24 Collaborated yearly jobs. It might take more jobs to finish imaging a target, but it gives quicker access to the data. This also makes it possible to modify the next job in a series of jobs when needed. It really sucks when a 20 hour job finally completes only to find out channel X needs to be re-imaged.
I do not like having to wait for RoboScopes staff blink through the data before making the data available. The one thing I hate about hourly jobs is waiting for RoboScopes staff to look at the data before making it available. If a channel needs to be re-imaged I am sure all of us will let you know. It should also be straight forward to have a some kind of resubmit channel X button in the session list.
Right now I use Telescopious and Stellarium to figure out what is rising and it took a little while to get better at this. For new people it is difficult to picture when a target is 30 degrees or more above the horizon when using RA/DEC coordinates at a given time of the year. It would be helpful for new people to get a monthly suggested box of RA/DEC coordinates to try choose targets from even if they have the GPS coordinates set incorrectly in Telescopious or other software. Help newbies become better at choosing and planning their own imaging session.
Daniel
Daniel I think there's a new tool coming out for Roboscopes that's going to really help with picking targets, as you have been doing on Telescopius, built in to the job submission process (emphasis on I think - Steve mentioned it).
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